tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3020960402708303830.post8921575925691738305..comments2024-03-28T14:53:38.827-04:00Comments on BLCKDGRD: Sensible Bourgeois Wild-Cats Working with Furred Impudence of Those Who Don't Pretend to Be Other than WhoresUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3020960402708303830.post-58299080798272725582013-08-31T12:18:58.743-04:002013-08-31T12:18:58.743-04:00mistah , now i see where your mind was with that ...mistah , now i see where your mind was with that line .., thank you annehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07224316837055308827noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3020960402708303830.post-36415223654416734412013-08-31T10:10:09.001-04:002013-08-31T10:10:09.001-04:00anne - the issue, from the point of view of the em...anne - the issue, from the point of view of the employer, is how the bread gets into the waste bin<br /><br />in a situation like this, the sandwiches are pre-made, and then discarded after waiting too long to be sold<br /><br />from the point of view of cost of raw materials, ideally one wants to always sell EVERY pre-made sandwich<br /><br />however, this would involve a certain number of customers who would have wanted to buy a pre-made sandwich being turned away - "sorry, all gone"<br /><br />i've never worked at a starbucks store, seldom patronized one, but i imagine the sandwiches are made during non-peak periods, and during peak periods the sandwich makers are busy with other tasks - hence the necessity of pre-making the sandwiches<br /><br />to avoid losing the opportunity to sell a pre-made sandwich, one makes "enough" - an estimate which includes a margin of error, and thus the discarded sandwiches<br /><br />from the news account, it is clear there are two categories of sandwich - "available for sale" and "trash"<br /><br />what happens if there are three categories - "available for sale", "no longer on sale, but available for free distribution to employees", and "trash"?<br /><br />then there is an incentive for those in charge of deciding how many sandwiches are made to make too many - because those unsold are transferred to themselves or their friends<br /><br />this is bad for the bottom line - and since income must more than cover expenses, this threatens the very existence of the business<br /><br />hence the necessity for a rule against stealing sandwiches that are going to be thrown out<br /><br />and the necessity for the store manager to fire the guy who was detected doing so<br /><br />it's nothing personal - it's just business<br /><br />in a better world - but as the optimist said, "this is ALREADY the best of all possible worlds", and as the pessimist replied, "i'm afraid you may be right" mistah charley, ph.d.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06303695341246058680noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3020960402708303830.post-16546191148996028972013-08-30T15:48:05.988-04:002013-08-30T15:48:05.988-04:00.."those who stole bread were hung by the nec....."those who stole bread were hung by the neck until dead " .. from the waste bin ..? annehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07224316837055308827noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3020960402708303830.post-10003687131357731312013-08-30T10:55:14.650-04:002013-08-30T10:55:14.650-04:00I personally believe that the publisher suffers th...I personally believe that the publisher suffers the greater financial harm than the Starbucks (which plans for spoilage/waste). And I'm not suggesting that the crime of stealing food from the trash is by any means heinous, and yeah, I get the connection that Starbucks uses hours as a weapon with some employees. I suspect that those are employees who've given their managers reason (justifiable or not, and most likely both) to dislike them.<br /><br />What I'm not seeing in the story BDR linked to is anything that makes me affirmatively suspect that the employee was really wronged. It's a one-sided effort that uses a standard and sensible practice (of course they can't comment on the employee's record or termination) to imply some wrongdoing on Starbucks' part. That's crap, and it's shitty and slanted journalism.Landruhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11954074164878242561noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3020960402708303830.post-55755212658016151952013-08-30T08:25:25.208-04:002013-08-30T08:25:25.208-04:00there are a couple of important differences betwee...there are a couple of important differences between stripped books and stale sandwiches<br /><br />1)books are entertainment (broadly speaking), sandwiches are the staff of life - a reason to be merciful to the sandwich thief<br /><br />2)the party potentially deprived of property is at a further remove in the stripped book case - i.e. the publisher, off premises, versus the food purveyer, who is also the employer - so if a misappropriation occurs, in the latter case the harm is done to the entity who is in a position to do something about it - that is, fire the sticky-fingered miscreant - a reason for strict enforcement of procedures designed to protect property<br /><br />all in all, i think the manager did what she had to do, and it was the hungry guy who caused the trouble by getting caught - <br /><br />in a former time, those who stole bread were hung by the neck until dead - now they are only deprived of their ability to work at a particular place for more bread - progress, right?<br /><br /><br />mistah charley, ph.d.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06303695341246058680noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3020960402708303830.post-14971567940941446252013-08-29T23:05:11.869-04:002013-08-29T23:05:11.869-04:00btw: Happy belated b'day! Just a couple weeks ...btw: Happy belated b'day! Just a couple weeks after my own.Jim H.https://www.blogger.com/profile/02088100982761595050noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3020960402708303830.post-69420585034641462112013-08-29T19:21:05.929-04:002013-08-29T19:21:05.929-04:00Do you want your food server reaching into the tra...Do you want your food server reaching into the trash and pulling stuff out to eat? I understand that, characterized as "fired for eating trash," it sounds pretty awful. I'm utterly unconvinced that there's not more going on, and "fired employee insists" is probably not a story you'd buy so easily as the real tilt in real life, either. I understand you're angling for corporatey corporations doing corporatey things. This one's pretty effing weak. Which doesn't mean it's untrue. But it's not passing my smell test, and I strongly suspect that the fired employee has other issues. I note that you didn't answer the question (although you acknowledged the possibility of other issues), which I'll take as meaning the answer was self-evident.<br /><br />I think I got rid of all the strips you gave me. Not that I didn't read them.<br />Landruhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11954074164878242561noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3020960402708303830.post-51795847682936330592013-08-29T13:25:33.933-04:002013-08-29T13:25:33.933-04:00You mean besides the getting fired for eating tras...You mean besides the getting fired for eating trash part?<br /><br />It also reminded me of working at Crown - to redeem unsold mass markets we'd tear off the cover to return to publisher then throw the book into the dumpster. I told my employees to help themselves, and my district managers (including both Johnsons, the one with the tight pants and her husband who had a crush on you) were all OK with that until I transferred out to Annapolis when we lived in Deale. The DM (I can't remember her name, she was visiting the store and heard me tell my employees to help themselves and she flipped out and called it theft. She hated me only slightly less than I hated her and I soon left, so there may be that unexplored option in the manager's firing the guy for eating trash.BDRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06557941385560728052noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3020960402708303830.post-31050804898208206642013-08-29T13:18:32.203-04:002013-08-29T13:18:32.203-04:00Not getting the problem with the Starbucks thing. ...Not getting the problem with the Starbucks thing. If your manager chooses to go to HR about something like that, you've got a problem with your manager, and the problem may be you. It may not. But it may, and there's absolutely no evidence one way or the other there. Do all your 20-year-old employees think you're a right guy?Landruhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11954074164878242561noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3020960402708303830.post-82660006021690247482013-08-29T12:46:19.700-04:002013-08-29T12:46:19.700-04:00We get nice speeches. Banksters get big bucks and...We get nice speeches. Banksters get big bucks and get out of jail free cards.<br />~ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®©https://www.blogger.com/profile/06252371815131259831noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3020960402708303830.post-17952825823752627902013-08-29T11:17:32.047-04:002013-08-29T11:17:32.047-04:00Sputter all you want, it was a good speech.Sputter all you want, it was a good speech.Sashahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06501998212859335778noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3020960402708303830.post-14030217766582260002013-08-29T11:01:03.037-04:002013-08-29T11:01:03.037-04:00gunn's "cat island" is torcello, nea...gunn's "cat island" is torcello, near venice<br /><br />pictures at<br /><br />http://www.slowtrav.com/blog/annienc/2009/10/when_you_get_there_torcello.htmlmistah charley, ph.d.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06303695341246058680noreply@blogger.com